Thread: It's time for Brandon Marshall to go

Originally Posted by Biz1

Didn't he start up a Summer camp for kids last year?...it's a start.

I never felt it was a good thing to give away a proven product for the equivalent of playing the lottery at a 50/50 chance of getting the proven product back.

Overall I have to agree with giving up a KNOWN entity , but we ALL know that BM is going to get suspended AGAIN in increasingly loner time frames.

Hell, he has seen the commish so many times he has a permanent NFL pass to the league office an anywhere any time type.

If he is a moron making 2.3 million add in the guaranteed and 10 million and year and see just how bad he is.

HE is a known quantity in DEN maybe a change of scenery will help BUT I doubt it.

Originally Posted by Jrwiz

Royal had 80 less yards on 64 less catches


Lets be honest here who has better YAC.

If that isn't a giant red siren alarm for Josh to throw to Eddie more, I don't know what is.

Originally Posted by atwater27

If that isn't a giant red siren alarm for Josh to throw to Eddie more, I don't know what is.

I think that BM was easy for Josh and KO to see and at the end of the year we were scrambling to keep our heads above water.

Remember that the OLINE was not giving an inordinate amount of protection time either.

I believe the guy when he said after looking at the year he will get both Eddie and Hillis more touches.

Originally Posted by Jrwiz

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HE is a known quantity in DEN maybe a change of scenery will help BUT I doubt it.

Dreary Seattle is where I'd want to go if I had mood swings. Awesome place in the summer but I hope he likes cloudy and rain!!

Originally Posted by atwater27

I've said it many times before. Since when is a guy who drops sooooo many balls an elite wide receiver? Yes, he is a good, strong athlete. Yes, he runs good routes. No, he does not posess the hands of an elite receiver, he possesses the hands of Braylon Edwards. And he really isn't that fast. That being said, without the off filed stuff, I would say pay the man. But with the off field stuff and the fact that he is a sneeze away from half a year suspension, HE SIMPLY ISN'T WORTH IT!

I agree that his drops should keep him from being considered elite, but Terrell Owens may have the worst hands ever for a professional receiver and he was considered elite. With Owens there's only a 50-50 chance he'll catch a ball that hits him in the hands. Marshall isn't quite that bad, but like you said - I'm not sure he's "elite".

Marshall doesn't drop any more passes than any of the top WRs do, to the number of passes thrown at them. Just look at the %. Marshall is elite. Marshall doesn't drop NEARLY as much as some of you believe he does. Did you see the HUGE HUGE pass that Fitz dropped in a prime moment in the playoffs?

Marshall is elite. Do you guys not recall the acrobatic catches he makes over defenders? The way he makes defenders miss? He's one of the very BEST in the NFL...a league full of the best in the world.

Personally... I don't understand the belief that we are better off with picks over a proven player. Since when are draft picks considered to be a 'given?'

oh well. I've pretty much just accepted that he's gone, and have accepted another offseason of losing premiere talent.

He is EXCEPTIONAL once he gets the ball in his hands and he does make some spectacular catches. I assume it's a lack of focus, but he does sometimes struggle to make the "routine" catch. I think he had a better year last year, but if I remember correctly he was right there with Braylon Edwards two years ago in the number of drops.

I think he's a terrific receiver, even if he's a little bit of a headcase, but I'm not sure I would put him at the Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, or Calvin Johnson level.

Originally Posted by spikerman

He is EXCEPTIONAL once he gets the ball in his hands and he does make some spectacular catches. I assume it's a lack of focus, but he does sometimes struggle to make the "routine" catch. I think he had a better year last year, but if I remember correctly he was right there with Braylon Edwards two years ago in the number of drops.

I think he's a terrific receiver, even if he's a little bit of a headcase, but I'm not sure I would put him at the Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, or Calvin Johnson level.

Ironically, it sounds a lot like DaddyTO.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

I HIGHLY doubt that. But I'm sure everyone appreciates you giving them no credit whatsoever. Those who want him gone can actually see past his on the field play and get the bigger picture. We know what he can do. We also know he's an ******* who is likely gonna be suspended a couple more times, if history is any indication. We also know that teams have won SBs without him. It'll be OK.

I'm not taking credit from anyone on the team... The only big TD we had other than Marshalls TD's was a big run by Correll Buckhalter against the Browns in week 3. People are going to miss being able to just throw it up to a HUGE receiver and have him nab the ball. I have all the faith in the world in Eddie Royal to make big plays as well. I hope he gets a ton more chances this year (and I think he will) but we won't have the type of a WR that can take over a game like BM. Again, go watch the games against Dallas, New England, NY Giants, and Colts. I don't care what his production was over the past 3 years. Last year the guy was a beast. I don't care that it shows his ypc is 12 yards, or that people have more YAC. I'm talking about having a guy on the team who DOMINATES on offense. Right now, he's the only one we have. That's a reason I don't want him to leave.

He may get in trouble again, but he may not. He did a pretty good job this year after TC until the last week when he showed up 20 minutes late for a treatment session... He knows he's on thin ice, so I doubt he'll be putting himself in situations to get suspended from now on. It's too bad our best offensive player (besides Clady) won't be here any longer, but I'm sure we'll be fine. I trust in Josh and I think Eddie Royal is going to have a huge season this year.

Originally Posted by Italianmobstr7

I'm not taking credit from anyone on the team... The only big TD we had other than Marshalls TD's was a big run by Correll Buckhalter against the Browns in week 3. People are going to miss being able to just throw it up to a HUGE receiver and have him nab the ball. I have all the faith in the world in Eddie Royal to make big plays as well. I hope he gets a ton more chances this year (and I think he will) but we won't have the type of a WR that can take over a game like BM. Again, go watch the games against Dallas, New England, NY Giants, and Colts. I don't care what his production was over the past 3 years. Last year the guy was a beast. I don't care that it shows his ypc is 12 yards, or that people have more YAC. I'm talking about having a guy on the team who DOMINATES on offense. Right now, he's the only one we have. That's a reason I don't want him to leave.

He may get in trouble again, but he may not. He did a pretty good job this year after TC until the last week when he showed up 20 minutes late for a treatment session... He knows he's on thin ice, so I doubt he'll be putting himself in situations to get suspended from now on. It's too bad our best offensive player (besides Clady) won't be here any longer, but I'm sure we'll be fine. I trust in Josh and I think Eddie Royal is going to have a huge season this year.

Someone whispered in his ear CONTRACT year. he played nice nice till he had his 100 catches for the year. Then he did a BM in the last week.

Give him that guaranteed money or a lot of it up front and his inhibitions disappear. IMHO

Way to much risk for a TEAM when 20-30 Million are riding on it.

Originally Posted by Jrwiz

Royal had 80 less yards on 64 less catches


Lets be honest here who has better YAC.

Those are crap stats. First off, they threw BM short passes more than not expecting him to break some tackles and get the yards after the catch. Sometimes he made the most of it. Most of the time the defenses knew exactly what we were trying to do with him.
Second, Orton can't throw the ball over 20 yards so there weren't many deeps routes going on.
I haven't looked, but what were his yards per catch before McD's offensive scheme was implemented?

It's not all Marshalls fault that his yards per catch sucked.

Originally Posted by Jrwiz

Overall I have to agree with giving up a KNOWN entity , but we ALL know that BM is going to get suspended AGAIN in increasingly loner time frames.

Hell, he has seen the commish so many times he has a permanent NFL pass to the league office an anywhere any time type.

If he is a moron making 2.3 million add in the guaranteed and 10 million and year and see just how bad he is.

HE is a known quantity in DEN maybe a change of scenery will help BUT I doubt it.

Bowlen, himself, believes that BM is maturing. Lets hope he's right, no matter where he will be playing.

Originally Posted by Jrwiz

Someone whispered in his ear CONTRACT year. he played nice nice till he had his 100 catches for the year. Then he did a BM in the last week.

Give him that guaranteed money or a lot of it up front and his inhibitions disappear. IMHO

Way to much risk for a TEAM when 20-30 Million are riding on it.

I guess that explains the two years prior

I rmember Micheal Irvin saying the EXACT same thing about Brees when he had his big year in San Diego, and then the following year. Saying he was only playing well because it was a "contract year." yeah.... ok

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

I guess that explains the two years prior

I rmember Micheal Irvin saying the EXACT same thing about Brees when he had his big year in San Diego, and then the following year. Saying he was only playing well because it was a "contract year." yeah.... ok

Exactly!!

If someone can promise me that the #6 pick overall is going to be a future 2 time Pro Bowler in his frst 4 years then I'll agree with letting him go.

i dont get it we offered him a contract for 9.5 million a year and he turned it down becasue he wanted more upfront money...the guy is 1 incident away from a 8 game suspension.....he is huge talent but what good is that when he is watching at home....

some of you just have to prepare for life after marshall and stop being big babies....

we dont need a message sent to our young players that its okay to act out becasue you still get paid...get a grip people....